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Fun Sucking Stun

Idk. Monolorhino’s kit is a pain for most things. It has all the resistances, armor, solid HP and a spammable debuff move that not only distracts, but removes attack increases and crit chances. Grypo struggles with it because of rend resistance and debuff. Thor can’t stun it, etc. and those are supposed to be tank busters. It will definitely live to leave and swap in again in a lot of cases if boosted well as it’s opposition

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I agree on being weaker once swapping in. But some creatures can cleanse, swap out again, and do damage. Happened to me today against DC

Maybe remove Monolorhino’s rend resistance, that’ll help

There’s always been something fishy about Dracorat’s overall design. Basically the tiniest thing in the game can come in and snipe you like an RPG for 40% of your health but also somehow has 4200 HP? and a shield+armor breaking kit?

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Yup. It defines looks can be deceiving

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It does have decent survivability, thankfully its attack stat is garbage. Which ensures players boost it at the expense of other key stats. But yeah something needs to be done with Cera.

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Cera is annoying. Looks OP as well. And I have proof. It should loose GA for Minimal GA, which increases speed by 10%. And maybe delayed precise rampage, which has a delay of 1

I am a former Monostegotops user. I think what it has now should be the standard for a swapper. It’s a specialist, but at a cost. Something about specialists ruling the meta right now doesn’t make sense.

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No attack should boost speed by 50% at all. There is no justification for that.

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It is balanced. Although annoying, it is pretty much vulnerable one swapped in. Faced it today(was on a team with tanycolagreus level 30 max health boosted) and died easily

Stun is perfectly fine not it’s fault you made a very poor move and swapped one of the very few non stun immune/resist into like one of 3 meta dinos with a stunning attack and gambled on a 25% chance the move itself is not that great there’s only a 66% or 75% chance it will actually do anything otherwise the stunner is toast and like I said earlier essentially all meta dinos have stun immunity hadros trebax ceram mortem ardent mrhino gemini magna spyx mammolania erlidom grypo nemys tenrex rinex antarctovenator even weak dinos like indoraptor have it which turns it into a 1× hit that is pretty useless unless it has something like priority and are you really gonna complain about a priority 1× hit that has a delay and 2 turn cooldown when stuff like swap ins instant rampages and group acceleration exist?

If you actually bothered to read you would have taken into consideration that it was the only move I could make. Don’t ever talk down to me like that. Super easy to say woulda coulda shoulda and list off things I clearly didn’t have at that moment. You would’ve lost here too, buddy. Have some respect.

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First of all. Tryko and Dio are both Tyrant tier and very meta relevant. Idk why you’re trying to flex a stun resistance list like it’s not easily obtainable information.

Secondly, when facing a fully leveled and boosted Thor with a 40% crit chance, you’re potentially looking at 3000+ damage from that hit, so it’s not something to scoff at unless you swap a Quetzorion in, which can also be stunned.

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The conversation has delved deeper into the complexities of all the stun based strikes and other debuff discussions.

So now you’re complaining about the initial statement even though the thread has obviously gone beyond that.

ive got to say that ive been battling with so over powered and boosted thors that there is litteraly no way to survive if you cant distract, stun or instant sheild, cause the with a sheild he could as well just defense shatter… so stun on thordor i sooooooooooooooo op.

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To the initial discussion point, it is reasonable the events of your specific battle occurred. Counter attackers are supposed to be vulnerable to stun, since the damage is intended to block the counter attack. You were forced to make a risky play with a 25% success rate and lost the dice roll. I’ve been asking for stun to be 100% so there’s nothing to be mad about…but for now it’s 75% which means it’s usually a bad move to assume you’ll go unstunned. Ignoring the swap in stunning strike (which imo should be 100% stun, lose armor piercing and only be on ceratopsians, while rhinos get swap in armor piercing strike), stun is a pretty reasonable tool. In the unique tier it’s actually kinda weak given the volume of stun resistant or immune creatures.
TLDR: stunning moves could use a rebalance but you did lose that battle as intended and probably would still lose if stun was rebalanced

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I agree with @Robbiejordan

Thor is broken because of boosts so Ludia should do something to fix it. There is no way to stop it if you don’t have any fast & distracting dinos in the match. The best way to balance it would be reducing its base damage, crit % and removing damage from its instant charge.

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So you’re upset that stun is working exactly as intended here? You moved first (by swapping into Dio) so when Thor went to stun you lost your next move. This is by design and has been this way since the beginning. It was actually a good move on the Thor player to force you to swap to IC, as he could then land a free rampage. Pretty smart way to use maybe the worst unique, which segues into my argument against @Zoom . Why are calling for a nerf on Thor, one of if not THE worst unique?
It’s easily counted by a decent cunning such as Spyx, Magna, Erlidom, Indo2, Yoshi, or if you’re willing to risk it Indom twins. That’s not even covering the fact that most resilients crush it (quite literally) with usually only an impact taken. If you seriously can’t beat Thor, I’d take a look at your team. If you’re talking about the OB monsters, that’s a matchmaking problem, not a Thor one.

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That is not true. If it was one of the worst unique dinos majority of top 500 players wouldn’t bother to have it max boosted.

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thor is one of the worst uniques. it just happens to be one of the very few pure fierce that people have at level that is somewhat good at revenge killing. and mortem is kinda iffy in usefulness.

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