Increase the breeding odds

Hi all. I know, I know. You think that I am another one guy who wants everything fast and he isn’t patient. But right now I trying to breed the Chestnut Knight, probably the most valuable and powerful dragon in game. I trying to breed her with 2 Skrillcrushers more than 3 WEEKS. I know, for someone it isn’t so much time. I try to get her since 12th FEBRUARY. That was the day when I saw her first time. Suddenly, I knew that one day I’ll get her and one day she’ll be a part of my dream team. That was my first ,meeting" with her. So, I’ve started with breeding. But back at point. Before I’ve got these 2 Skrillcrushers, I tried to breed her with Son of Skullcrusher and Revenger. I’ve get Son of Skullcrusher at APRIL 2nd. And I’ve got Revenger at MAY 2nd. So you must see that I was pretty patient. I tried that pair since May 2nd untill I’ve ,accidentaly" got the first Skrillcrusher. I was… disappointed. I know, I know, breed a 4 star is good. And he is good but… I wanted Chestnut. I’ve got the first Skrillcrusher at May 10th. Yeah, I know, it is pretty quickly and I am glad for him. The second one I’ve got a few days later ( at May 12th ). But back at point. Since this date I try to breed her but STILL nothing. I understand that she is a Legendary Dragon and one of the most valuable dragons in game and if I want ber, I must be patient. I UNDERSTAND and I agree with this. And now go to the REAL point of this. This is for Devs: Please, when I breed a 2 4 STARS Dragons, REMOVE that 2 star possibility. All the time I didn’t get ANYTHING else. Only that 2 star. And if I am REALLY lucky, I get Knock Rocket. If I’ll want a 2 star, I’ll go to the Hatchery and BOOM! After 30 minutes I have a 2 star. And without paying 16k FISHES and 16 HOURS OF WAITING. Please, do it for us. @Marcus please show that to your team if you can. I am not the only one who’s nervous, angry and after that sad. Please, remove that 2 star possibility when I breed 2 4 star dragons. And if it is not possible, at least increase these odds a little bit. I know that breeding is a ,gamble, and before I started breed dragons, I knew that I must be patient. But now I am so sad about that.
Thanks for reading this

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Yes! i agree, take that darned 2* Out. there is almost no way in 3 weeks that you’ll get 1 3* least a 4*… and EVERYbody has the option to get a 2* easy.

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I know it’s frustrating but breeding is always going to be a literal gamble. You can invest weeks of your time and many thousands of fish with zero guarantee, just like how you can keep playing your favourite a lot machine for 12 hours straight without a payout. Luck doesn’t care about time or resources invested, unfortunately. And usually when it does pay out, it’s a minimal, like with your 2star dragons. That’s the nature of profiting in the business of odds.

You’re completely right that a hybrid dragon with a serious revive ability is going to be extremely sought after, and PvP wouldn’t be much fun if all the strongest dragons were easy to get and everyone had them, would it? Take a look at the drop rates for the Legendary drafts and remember that Legendary hybrids are even rarer. (Don’t forget you’ll need to breed that special dragon 2 more times unless you want your new Legendary to sit at 3 stars forever)

Any advice would be to stop focusing on a single dragon of that star tier until your level is closer to 40. At least at 40, your Epic breeding wait time goes down by 25%, and you’ll save a lot of time.

You’ll get that dragon you love eventually, but you will seriously hinder your ability to enjoy or progress in the game if that is your only focus this early on.

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@upperthorso yeah you’re right. But it would be good if they’ll remove that 2 star option at least when you breed 2 4 star dragons.

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Those 2 stars aren’t as useless as they seem. If you want to hatch decent dragons for levelling up, you need to spend scales on the hatchery (and wait three times as long). 1-star scales may seem like nothing, but when you get to a point where most of your dragons are ready to train up a star level, every scale becomes precious.

But 1 star dragons certainly don’t give much for levelling, so it’s nice to have some 2 stars thrown in from breeding and the basic draft.

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Right now I’ve got the 2 star Boltstamper from breedery. Again​:rage::angry::rage:. I was patient, but now I am not. @upperthorso that is the reason why I am frustrated and why I want completely remove that 2 star possibility when I breed 2 4 star dragons. I would rather spend my scales than EVERY. SINGLE. DAY get that crappy 2 star which I am be able to hatch easily. It cost only 30 minutes. And without paying 16k fishes and 16 hours of waiting.

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A minor increase would be nice I think

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You know how with a lottery there is one grand prize of a million dollars, and then maybe 50 thousand dollar prizes? Same logic applies to your 2 star dragons. You can beg the prize coordinators for better prizes, but they aren’t going to overhaul the system so it’s easier to win?

Like I said, if your main focus this early on is a special 5 star hybrid, you are going to be investing a lot of time and fish for a very very small chance of getting what you want. There will be extra help to increase your odds down the road, but your laser focus might make you give up before you get there.

Chestnut Knight is a fantastic dragon and you won’t be seeing her very often, whether in the Breedery, your clan mates’ rosters, or in the future PvP. It will just make her that much more special if you succeed.

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@upperthorso but that ,Epic Breeding time decreased" upgrade doesn’t INCREASE the chance of getting a 5 star. So it doesn’t matter if I’ll breed for her at level 40 or now. Yeah, at level 40 is upgrade which decreases breeding time and amount of fishes, ok, but the chance of getting her will be always still small.

I agree that the Breeding chances for 4 star and 5 star dragons needs to be increased. I have been trying for months to breed a third Bombwelter and still no luck.

Also, it would be nice if Ludia could state the algorithm used in Breeding. I don’t think its based on just a flat percentage as there seems to be a hidden variable involved.

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This 100% needs to happen - current breeding odds are a joke. Just bred a 4 star and 3 star and got a 2 star…?

All Ludia wants us to get from breeding are runts

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Exactly. Like you said, these odds are a joke. I’ve breed 2 4 stars more than 3 weeks, nearly 1 month now, but STILL no 5 star. Only 2 star. This makes me unbelievable angry😡. Earlier I was patient but now I am not.

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Yeah this, and not having a smash feature for egg levels, are my two biggest gripes about the game.

Doesn’t make sense taking two 4 stars and getting a two stars…

It’s like breeding two pure bred German Shepards and getting a chihuahua. Makes 0 sense

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By that analogy tho, breeding 4 stars would only yeild 4 stars.

While I haven’t breed a 5 star I’ve bred a ton of 4 stars, all I can say is it is gamble, like most mobile games

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I’m all for people suggesting improvements, so long as you guys understand you’re pretty much asking them to make the rarest dragons “cheaper” when the game’s barely been out for 6 months.

Very unlikely. Look at the draft results if you want an idea of how rare the game developers intended 4 and 5 stars to be. Hybrids will be even rarer since breeding is the only way to obtain them at this point. However, they increase the odds of certain colours/species over the week and for special events. It’s possible that similar odd-increase events may happen for breeding as well.

But in the end, chance odds is not like grinding experience. Invested effort does not guarantee an equal payback. It’s a dice roll every time, and even if you are on your 100th roll, you’re no more likely a win than your 1st roll.

If you can’t handle a gamble, maybe the casino isn’t the place for you.

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I agree. The only thing this will do will likely turn people away from the game. I can’t even remember the last time I progressed in the campaign. I either have the choice of waiting for the breedary to kick out that rare 5* and another two dupes to progress any further in the game. There is trust point dragons but takes three months for one. So woop woop I will have a maxed out 5* in 9 months…
Oh yeah, there is that chance in the drafts, but at 50 for the premium draft and a ~1% chance for 5*, small fortune to progress.

If clans weren’t around, I’d have left long ago.

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well. how about they just take out the 2* when breeding 4s. problem solved. :+1: at least that will also make it easier to get a 4-5

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