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Ludia Fusion system is terrible

9 10’s in a row and 3 20’s! Yeh! That’s random!


Your average will be about 22.5

That average is 12.5

Good news, you’re close to a big streak.


That average doesn’t work anymore! I did like 2000 suchotator fuses and the average was more like 17!

Sorry I meant to say used 2000 dna not 2000 fuses

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It’s just horrible. I had like 7x 10 in a row on Magna!!!

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This was after the last major update! Before that the average was around 20-21

I’ll see what I get at lunch.

I hope they didn’t drill yet another hole in the boat.

Happy happy.

I adopted two new pets from the animal shelter. They are awesome, someone took great care of these animals.

Spay and neuter your pets. Don’t support puppy mills.

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Congrats on da pets! Shelter pets always seem better than pet shop ones! Maybe it’s just me but they seem more grateful :grinning::grinning:

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I do actually get good ones but it seems only on ones that I have a ton of dna and miles to go! In other words if I need like 7000 to level up I will get good ones! But on important ones where I need say 100 I am sure to get 10,10,10,10 etc!


This is an interesting fact that I have seen several times! It appears the game knows exactly what you will get on fuses before they are awarded! This is how I discovered this! On a few occasions i was fusing to collect my DNA for daily missions and needed 30 and as soon as I hit the fuse button the little red thing came on before I saw what I got :face_with_monocle::face_with_monocle::face_with_monocle: to tell me I completed the mission

10 fuses on Utasino = 18 avg
10 fuses on Suckatater = 26 avg

22 avg, but got great fuses on the one that I have a ton of DNA for and ridiculous lengths between levels. craptastic fuses on the one without a ton of DNA and short spans between levels.

Hmmm. Too small a data set to use.

The shelter pets:

They had just come in two days prior. They were not outgoing and very timid. Didn’t even notice they were litter mates (5 years old) Someone else noticed they were “twins” so they both came home with us. Didn’t realize how bonded they were until we got home. They were extremely grateful, and I’m so glad they didn’t get split up. They’ve integrated well with the cat and dog. I took a gamble in how they’d be. I could have chosen a young one like everyone else wants…the young ones are not timid and very friendly… which was the polar opposite of these guys until we got them home.

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There are over 1200 possible outcomes for fuses with the total chances of 10’s and 20’s being more than half those outcomes and chances of 80’s, 90’s, and 100’s being less than 1%.

You would need to keep track of 100’s of fuses to determine an average outcome. The average a player receives will never be exactly what the overall average of all possible results is, but the smaller the sampling for a reward average the larger the deviation from overall average can be.

Roll 4 dice. There are 1,296 different ways the dice can land. Adding the totals of the dice the totals can be anywhere from 4 to 24. The overall average of all possible outcomes should be 14 (or (1+6)/2 multiplied by the # of dice). If you check this by rolling the dice only 10 times, the average is very likely going to be way off.

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How do you figure there are 1200 possible outcomes? All there is is 10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,100 that to me is 10 possible outcomes and to get 9 10’s in a row is no where near an average!

There is no way on earth to compare this to rolling dice!

10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10

10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 20

10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 30

Here are 3 combinations.

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Actually there are 10,000,000,000 possible outcomes.

Whenever I hit a 10, I move to a dino like Suchotator and fuse a few until the 10’s stop. It works out usually!

I’ve had really awful luck with Carnotarkus. Doesn’t matter what combo I use, I always get poor results like this:

Puruta: 30, 50, 40, 10, 90, 30, 20, 20, 10
Carnotar: 10, 20, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10

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Wasn’t comparing it to rolling dice, the rolling dice was to show a correlation in that it takes a large sampling of results to determine if an average is deviating further than expected.

As far as there being more than 1200 outcomes you have to add up all the chances of receiving a particular reward. There are only 10 rewards but the reward given is determined by a randomly generated number that can be looked up on a table.

If I were to say I’m thinking of a number from 1 to 100 and if you guess what it is I’ll give you a dollar, there are 100 possible outcomes but only 1 is correct.

The numbers in the example below are not the actual numbers from the game.
If 10 has 375 chances of being rewarded, 20 has 300 chances, 30 has 100 chances, 40 has 70 chances, 50 has 50 chances, 60 has 20 chances, 70 has 10 chances, 80 has 5 chances, 90 has 2 chances, and 100 has 1 chance; then there are 933 possible outcomes. The program randomly rolls a number from 0 to 932 and looks up the result on a table to know what to reward;
0 - 374 reward 10
375 - 674 reward 20
675 - 774 reward 30
775 - 844 reward 40
845 - 894 reward 50
895 - 914 reward 60
915 - 924 reward 70
925 - 929 reward 80
930 - 931 reward 90
932 reward 100
Chance at receiving a particular reward;
10 - 40.193%
20 - 32.154%
30 - 10.718%
40 - 7.503%
50 - 5.359%
60 - 2.144%
70 - 1.072%
80 - 0.536%
90 - 0.214%
100 - 0.107%
The overall average return on this example would be 22.111.

Since each roll is independent of the previous rolls the odds never change of receiving a particular reward. If the program kept track of all previous roll results that had been used so it wouldn’t roll the same number again, then after each roll the chances of receiving a particular reward would go up or down depending on what has previously been rewarded. Then after all 933 rewards had been given, the program would reset all outcomes to unused.

There are 10 Billion possible outcomes in your example, not 933.

While hitting 100 may have a 933-1 chance of happening, it is still possible to hit 100 ten times in a row.

Magna is cursed. Lots of 10s for me. Got a 40 today though, bet that’ll never happen again.
My tryko is the opposite though. Got something over 50 at least 10-15 times

Some days I get good fuses. Some days bad fuses.

One recent good fuse example. My Tryko was stuck at 100/150 level 22 for some time. I farmed Kentro for a while (which was what I was lacking in) and got enough DNA to probably make 2 fuses for the Tryko. So I tried my luck.

I hit the fuse button and got a 100 fuse. Wow!

Tryko levelled up and I am already 50 DNA in for next levelling. Just need to get those Kentro DNAs.